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Los Angeles, CA

Dec 16 1:00 PM, Los Angeles Peace Center

Dec 29 Border Party at Luna Sol Cafe, LA, CA


Feb 4 Border Meeting at Garment Worker Center


Tijuana, BJ - San Diego, CA


Dec 15 Meeting at Tijuana

Jan 12-13, Jan 26-27 Meeting Proposals

Feb 3, SD FTAA Meeting


San Francisco, CA


Dec 19 6:30 PM, San Francisco, SF FTAA-planning meeting

Jan 29 7:30 PM, SF Border Committee Meeting


Tucson, AZ
Jan 21, Border Meeting at Tucson


Dec 16: Los Angeles Meeting Notes
Dec 16th 1:00 PM,
Los Angeles, LA Border Actions Planning meeting.


Facilitators: Don White

Introductions

Don White (LA CISPES)
Carl Renyolds (LA DAN)
Michael Myers (ISO)
Bill Neal (ISO)
John Martinez (radio reporter)
Jose Avila & son
Lee Siu Hin (LA DAN)

Agenda:

I-Report back from Tucson conference, Tijuana meeting, and San Quintin trip.

II-Issue of Mexico-US join border cooperations

III-Outreach committee report


I-Report back from Tucson/Tijuana/San Quintin


Siu Hin: The meeting at the Tucson (Dec 8 -10) was a great success, over 600 people attend and they were very excited about the border mobilization. During the meeting, several local AZ DAN, border right activists and anti-globolizations folks established a work group to prepare for the border actions next year. They propose a cross border activities from California to Texas, they are plan to organize local actions along Arizona-Sonora border, at cities such as Nogales-Nogales, Naco-Bisbee and Agua-Douglas.
The visits to San Quintin (Dec 10), organized by Globoalphoics migrant farm community was also very important, he found the living conditions of the farm workers are very bad, many farm union organizers were treated by mobs and police, they don't have enough to eat and their food products are 100% ship to US.
The meeting on Tijuana last Friday (12-15) was very difficult, during the meeting, several San Diego (SD) and Tijuana (TJ) activists were very critical about the culture of organizing from the activists of north, they complain that LA organizers did not inform them what they are doing, and they thinks LA folks are doing their own border actions planning without consult with the activists from TJ-SD.
Propose next meeting with TJ activists: Friday Jan 26th, 3 PM at TJ


Don: We need more dialogue with TJ folks, we need to build a "point of unity". He will try his best to go to TJ meeting next time.
Bill: Friday Jan 26th is not a good time, since all of us need to go to work and school, he suggest Saturday, Jan 27th, so more people can go to the TJ meeting.
Everybody: agrees.

II-Issue of Mexico-US join border cooperation
Siu Hin: he believes since D2K protest last August, the Seattle-style anti-globalization movement is "dead", there's many reasons behind this failure--distrust amount different activists, power struggle, pride, protest didn't achieve its demand/results, heavy police crackdown, debate between civil disobedience Vs peaceful march, internal political/personal struggles, and so on. He believes the border actions is a new hope for the anti-globolaization movenent, a successful join Mexico-US border cooperation can unite people of north America to fight NAFTA, WTO, World Bank, sweatshops.
Don: he believe that most of the distrusts amount activists are root of miscommunications, it happened many times during D2K mobilizing.
John: We should individually talk to the TJ activists for the feedback, he personally had talk to the media collectives in TJ, and send an personal e-mail to Enrique.
Jose: he believes we need more Spanish speaking people from the community to join the mobilization, such as MEChA and Justice for Janitors.
Siu Hin: he believes communications is important, we need to be more humble and respect the idea and decisions from south of the border.
Don: Let's not point fingering each other, unless TJ activists agrees, we should not decide any actions at Tijuana-San Diego without them.
Decision:
A draft letter to TJ activists--points of unity, include:
-Importance of equal, democratic partnerships between Mexico-US activists
-listen to what TJ activists wants
-Solidarity with San Quintin
-NO to FTAA, NAFTA
-Support EZLN
-Human and civil rights at border
-Yes to immigrant amnesty
-No to ecological devastation of borderIII-Outreach committee report
Formally establish outreach work group
Bill: he can talk to Cal State LA anti-globolization and anti-sweatshop folks for the support.
Siu Hin: he talked to Cal Poly Pomona's MEChA and United Students against Sweatshop, and they would like to join the mobilization after the new year.
Don: we should also approach to some LA immigrant-based labor organizations, such as Jerry Acosta from AFL/CIO-Justice for Janitor, United Farm Workers Union and Juan from One Stop Immigrant. It'll be very logical to ask UFW to solidarity with San Quintin workers.
John: he'll talk to some media activists in TJ, and he believe we should also approach to the activists outside Tijuana for support, he suggests we should contact the student activists from Mexico city campuses, such as Prof. Juan Manuel Sandoval.
Siu Hin: He suggest LA activists to meet with several TJ activists at the beginning of January for a Friendship meeting.
Next meeting time: January 6th, 1AM at Peace Center


Dec 29: Report on LA Luna Sol Party
Report for Dec 29 Border Party at Luna Sol Cafe, LA, CA

Hi everybody:
Last night's fundsing/culture event at Los Angeles Luna Sol Cafe (Luna Sol is a most famous independent, progress coop-own coffee house in LA) was a great success, nearly 40 people show up. Two great music bands La Paz and Sahua, several speakers include: LA Food Not Bombs, Cal Poly MEChA, East LA Micro Radio Collective, Mexican Journalist Reymundo Reynosa and LA Catholic worker Hose. The event was live on radio via John Martinez's micro-radio at 104.7 FM.
We raised $230.00 and some amount of food. $30.00 donated to Luna Sol Cafe. $50.00 and food donated from LA Food Not Bombs, will donated to Tijuana-San Diego Globoalphoics Network for the San Qunitin, Baja California, Mexico farm workers. The remaining $150.00 will be for the future mailing costs for the border planning.
Thank you for everybody's support and Happy New Year!
Lee Siu Hin
2001 Border Actions CommitteeFeb 4: LA Border General Meeting
isbilln@gateway.net>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 7:51am
Subject: Report form LA Stop the FTAA mtg.
STOP THE FTAA!
US-Mexico Border Action Project
"Para justicia sin froteras"
Report from Los Angeles coalition to Stop the FTAA Meeting
A breakthrough happened Sunday when a great group of about 35 Los Angeles activists attended a meeting to plan a US-Mexico border mobilization to oppose the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA). The bi-national mobilization will highlight the destructiveness of past trade agreements on the region, show our opposition to the FTAA, and express the commitment of people on both sides of the border to fight for a just world. It will take place on both sides of the San Diego—Tijuana border on April 21st during the Quebec City FTAA negotiations. There is a lot of work to do but the meeting was a great start to this historic project.
The meeting started with a short discussion on the impact of NAFTA on people and the environment in both the US and Mexico. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have lost jobs with their new ones paying three quarters of their previous wage. In Mexico 8 million more people live below the poverty line than before NAFTA went into effect. Energy deregulation, privatization and environmental destruction are also major parts of "free" trade. If FTAA goes through it will be worse.
Updates on the effort of activists in other cities were presented. Bay area workgroups are beginning to build momentum, and the host cities, Tijuana and San Diego, are gaining momentum. The reports were encouraging.
We finally gave ourselves a name: STOP the FTAA!, US-Mexico Border Action Project. Our
slogan: "Para Justicia Sin Fronteras."—for Justice Without Borders.
We should use it on all our materials/correspondence.
Four workgroups were formed and had brief breakout sessions. Although other workgroups will be needed as time goes on, these four will help up get started:

1. Teach-in workgroup. A Teach-in will be held at Cal State LA on Saturday, Feb. 24th to kick-off the campaign citywide. Already Jaime Coite, a Tijuana maquila organizer, has agreed to speak.
The plan is to follow the meeting with music and a reception. The work group will meet at Cal State LA on Monday Feb. 12th to plan the event. Diana is the point person for this group.

2. Outreach workgroup. This group is the largest, and it needs to be. In addition to reaching out to more people, this group will draft a "Call to Action" and a letter to solicit endorsements for the mobilization. Eventually we will need a media committee. As time goes on this workgroup will probably break up into separate workgroups, or at least sub-committees.

3. Web-page/graphics workgroup will be redesigning the existing web-site, and Elbop created a beautiful graphic that can be used as a recognizable emblem for the mobilization
(see attachment). One goal is to have a set up to allow for credit card donations on the internet.

4. Finances workgroup. Now that we have a name we can open a bank account. Don will be helping to get the ball rolling. Fundraising will be important. This is a major effort requiring a lot of resources and logistical challenges. Where possible we want to aid Mexican and Tijuana organizers in addition to our own needs. The corporate reps meeting in Quebec City will probably spend more on lobster than we will on the whole action. Ideas are in motion for musical fundraisers, etc. $12 were raised at the meeting from selling stickers produced by Mexican activists. We should start passing the hat at future meetings.
Next weekend Feb 10th and 11th, people from the US and Mexico will be going to San Quintin, Mexico to attend a teach-in and caravan to an agricultural maquila in Baja California. This is a great opportunity to forge real connections between people on both sides of the border. Call Bill for
more info: 213-380-3929.
The next meeting of the coalition will be held on Tuesday, Feb. 13th, at 7:00pm at a location to be announced (probably Lafayette Park Community Center). After that we will meet every two weeks on Monday evenings. CARACEN has expessed interest and we may be able to meet there starting the 26th.
Para Justicia Sin Fronteras,
Bill Neal-- International Socialist Organization
STOP the FTAA! Coalition

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Globalphobics Network

Dec 15: Tijuana Meeting Notes
REPORT OF LAST MEETINGS OF THE GLOBALPHOBICS NETWORK
(Internal document for San Diego/Baja California Committees of the Network)

Meetings:
Baja California, Tijuana, Dec. 15, Factor X office
San Diego, Dec. 16, San Diego City College

Agenda:

1. Report of the delegation to San Quintin (SQ)

2. FTAA campaign, April 21/22, 2001

3. Leymex workers

4. Network Organization

1. REPORT OF THE DELEGATION TO SAN QUINTIN

The Baja California Committee could not discuss this issue, but it will be the first point in the next meeting on Jan. 12, 5 pm, at Factor X office.
The San Diego Committee did discuss the issue. People from the delegation explained their experience and opinions about the delegation to SQ. There were a lot of questions and many questions difficult to answer. There are serious issues to be considered, including the following ones:
(A) The delegation made some contacts with SQ groups of indigenous farmworkers. This is very positive; however, the Globalphobic Network should make contact with more of the progressive organizations in SQ. At this point, we know that there are at least 15 groups in SQ.
(B) The solidarity with SQ could not be limited to a campaign that would end in April, even though this was the commitment of the Festival. If we begin to organize solidarity actions, we have to be aware that we are taking on a commitment that will require work and effort for a long time, perhaps years.
(C) The Festival decided to organize a campaign supporting SQ struggles; however, it is clear that we need more information and knowledge about SQ in order to have a successful campaign.
(D) Communication is a key problem to be solved. We need a phone line, e-mail access, fax, and/or other ways of efficient communication with groups in SQ.
(E) We need to decide how to weave in a wise way the campaign for San Quintin with the struggle against FTAA.
The meeting accorded the following points:
1. The creation of a sub-committee to get information and prepare a teach-in about SQ.
2. To invite the Baja California Committee to create a similar subcommittee that could focus on SQ. It is clear that a teach-in won't be possible without the push of the Baja California Committee.
3. There are some suggestions for the teach-in: To explore the ten biggest agribusiness in SQ. and Maniadero, including their network from production to distribution, from SQ. to the US supermarkets; to explore how to prepare a legal demand against the unconstitutional "salario integrado" that SQ. businesses pay to farmworkers; to explore experiences of SQ. Indigenous organization and mobilization. Organizers from SQ. should be invited to lead the teach-in.
4. Proposal for the teach-in: Jan. 27, Saturday, 10:00, at Tijuana
5. A small delegation should go to SQ. to invite people for the teach-in and explore ways of communication with SQ. groups.
6. We need a campaign of solidarity to get food, blankets, and money to SQ. San Diego Committee is creating a subcommittee in solidarity with Leymex and SQ.

2. FTAA, QUEBEC 2001
This issue was discussed in both meetings in Tijuana and San Diego. In both meetings, information was given about several proposals that are currently being discussed, especially in the US, regarding April FTAA meeting:
(A) A campaign against the FTAA focussing on the San Ysidro/Tijuana border gate, including actions of education (as workshops and teach-ins) and mobilizations on the border line.
(B) An international consultation asking people about their feelings on the current process of globalization and the FTAA. This consultation would follow the Zapatista experience of national consultation that was organized on March 1998.
(C) Campaign of several mobilizations on the US/Mexico border line including border crossing points at Tijuana/SD, Cd. Juarez/El Paso, Nuevo Laredo/Laredo, etc. The meeting in Tijuana considered that we need more information before the Globalphobics decide on a plan for April 2001. It was decided to organize a future meeting, in which people and groups from several cities, including Mexicali, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Tucson, will be invited. The meeting was proposed for Jan. 26, Friday, 5 pm, in Tijuana.
The meeting in San Diego made a similar resolution. They considered that the San Diego members of the Globalphobic Network could call a meeting to investigate forming a regional and binational coalition for April 2001 FTAA actions. The San Diego committee invites the Tijuana Committee to attend this meeting as well. The date proposed was: Jan. 13, Saturday, 3 pm., in San Diego. If the Tijuana committee agrees, this meeting could take the place of the Jan. 26 meeting that they proposed, or, alternatively, could be used to further prepare for the formation of the coaltion on Jan 26.

3. LEYMEX
Leymex workers' struggle is going on well; however the situation is difficult because the workers could not get a new job in another maquiladora: Leymex's boss sent information to Tijuana maquiladoras' administrators with the names of Leymex workers. To face bosses' solidarity we should create workers' solidarity. The posada on Dec. 15 was successful. At this moment, the San Diego/Tijuana Globalphobics committees have obtained more than $2,000 dollars (cash and goods) in solidarity to Leymex's workers. Leymex workers have a meeting with the corporation and the Mexican Labor Department on Jan. 11. We should be alert to support the workers on that day.

SUMMARY:
NEXT MEETINGS
1. Baja California Committee: Jan. 12, Friday, 5 pm, at Factor X, Tijuana
Directions: In Tijuana, take Blv. Agua Caliente to the corner known as "5 y 10." Turn right and go five block to Junipero Serra. (There is an Oxxo store on the corner.) Factor X office is right behind Oxxo. Information, Reyna Montera, phone number 011-52(66) 22-4217,
e-mail: factorx@mail.tij.cetys.mx.
2. Calling to creating a regional binational coalition to fight the FTAA April meeting: Jan. 13, Saturday, 2 pm., San Diego
3. Meeting of both California and Baja California to discuss FTAA: Jan. 26, Friday, 5 pm, at Tijuana
4. Teach-in on San Quintin: Jan. 27, Saturday, 10 am, Tijuana.
Report prepared by: Committee for Solidarity in the Americas

Globalphobics Network

Feb 3: San Diefo FTAA Meeting

1. reports from other cities:
*l.a. --reps from many orgs, including garment workers coalition and more. l.a. people have been attending s.f. meetings. the southern california fair trade network is doing teach-ins in l.a., will probably endorse action.
*s.f. --no one here. apparently they have a border working group now within their ftaa working group. many groups organizing, and some people will be going to quebec. pga is organizing consulta re: colombia and bolivia. group has been formed to get people to the border from the bay.
*tuscon --no one here either. someone said they have about 600 people.
*t.j. --met re: san quintin teach-in. it was decided at the globalphobics festival in october that there will be something on 21 april in san quintin. perhaps people at this and the ftaa border action can support each other with signs or something? they're also trying to organize people to support the zapatistas. they're going to go meet with the zapatistas in mexico city and talk to them about border issues. if yr interested, right now it's 10-17 march and will cost $160-180. for more info, email yabasta@fzln.org.mx
*seattle --they're doing something too. apparently they had a meeting with about 75 people.

2. discussion of the proposed points of unity sent out by the globalphobics: there was a lot of discussion about what parts we liked and what we wanted to change. we also put together a call to action to go with these points of unity. i will send this out in a separate email because this one will be long enough.

3. report on border sites: at this point, larsen park on camino de la plaza is looking most feasible. by next meeting, the site committee will have a report with a map, including otay mesa and the train tracks. we may have the main action at larsen park and somewhere in tijuana, and have delegations go from each action to the train tracks where they can see each other. by next meeting, the site committee will also have a proposal for a site and information about the lega aspects involved.

4. committees. the point people for each committee are as follows:

outreach:
justin
education:
jean/herb
logistics/site:
brie
financial:

guy (finance committee is temporarily a part of the outreach committee until it grows a bit)
the committees will begin meeting outside of the large meetings to work on their specific aspects of this action.

5. meetings are still bi-weekly. they will begin with 10-15 minute presentations on relevant issues.
the next meeting will be 17 feb, 2001, and will feature a presentation about san quintin.

6. the san diego point people are
roberto, steph, and avery.

7. we should be calling our politicians and asking their positions on ftaa to get it on their radar and let them know this is something their constituents care about.

8. the mailing list will soon be moving from listbot to libertad.ucsd.edu so that it will be on a server run by a collective of local activists, not a server run by microsoft, which profits by selling ads to be sent out to us in these emails. libertad will also be creating an email address for the san diego point people to share.

9. the next meeting will be facilitated by steph. if you have something you would like to put on the agenda, either email it to the list, or send it to her at assherer@cs.com

 

Jan 12-13, Jan 26-27 Meeting

Spanish Edition

I. ENERO 12 , 5 pm. COMITE BAJA CALIFORNIA DE LA RED
Lugar: Factor X. Junipero Serra # 14364-1
Para llegar: Tomar Blv. Agua Caliente hasta llegar a la 5 y 10. Alli doblar a la derecha y a cinco cuadras se encuentra Junipero Sierra. (Hay una tienda Oxxo en la esquina). Atras de Oxxo esta la oficina de Factor X. Informes: Reyna Montera, coordinadora factor X, tel: 622-4217
Propuesta de orden del dia:
1. Solidaridad con jornaleros de San Quintin
2. Delegacion del EZLN a la Cd. De Mexico
3. Solidaridad con trabajadores de Leymex
4. Contratacion de un facilitador (o coordinador) para la Red
5. Acciones por el Tratado de Libre Comercio de las Americas, FTAA, Abril 2001
6. Informaciones y generales

II. ENERO 13, 3 pm. REUNION AMPLIA CONVOCADA POR EL COMITE SAN DIEGO DE LA RED
Lugar: San Diego City College (A confirmar)
Propuesta de orden del dia
1. Acciones y organizacion por el Tratado de Libre Comercio de las Americas, FTAA, Abril 20
2. Informaciones y generales
3. (Despues de la reunion amplia): Contratacion de un facilitador de la Red de Globalifobic@s III. ENERO 26, 5pm. REUNION AMPLIA CONVOCADA POR EL COMITE BAJA CALIFORNIA DE LA RED
Lugar: Por decidirse
Propuesta de orden del dia
1. Acciones por el Tratado de Libre Comercio de las Americas, FTAA, Abril 20
2. Informaciones y generales
IV. ENERO 27, 10 am. (Fecha propuesta) TALLER DE SABERES LOCALES SOBRE SAN QUINTIN
Reunion conjunta de los comites Baja California y San Diego de la Red
Lugar: A decidirse (Tijuana)
Propuesta de orden del dia
1. Taller de Saberes Locales sobre San Quintin
2. Informaciones y generales
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
INFORME DE REUNIONES ANTERIORES DE LA RED DE GLOBALIFOBIC@S
A] Comite Baja California: Tijuana, 15 de diciembre, Oficina de Factor X
B] Comite San Diego: San Diego, 16 de diciembre en San Diego City College
Puntos de discusion:

1. Reporte de la delegacion de San Quintin y tareas
2. Campan~a ante el FTAA, Free Trade of the Americas Agreement (Acuerdo de Libre Comercio de las Americas), Quebec, Abril 21 y 22, 2001
3. Leymex
4. Organizacion de la Red

1. REPORTE DE LA DELEGACION DE SAN QUINTIN Y TAREAS
La reunion de Tijuana no tuvo tiempo de discutir este punto. Se tratara en la proxima reunion: enero 12, 5 pm., Factor X. La reunion de San Diego si discutio el punto. Varios de los asistentes a la delegacion platicaron su experiencia y opiniones. Hubo muchas preguntas, muchas de ellas dificiles de contestar. Hay varios problemas importantes a resolver, entre ellos:
(A) Hicimos contactos con ciertas organizaciones de jornaleros indigenas de San Quintin, sin embargo la Red busca mantener relacion y solidaridad con TODAS las organizaciones progresistas de SQ. Hasta este momento sabemos que existen mas de 15 organizaciones.
(B) La solidaridad con San Quintin no puede limitarse a una campanha que culmine en abril, como se resolvio en el festival de los globalifobicos. Si iniciamos contactos y solidaridad con San Quintin, es claro que sera un trabajo demandante y con un compromiso que requerira quizas an~os.
(C) Decidimos en el Festival de octubre hacer una accion en San Quintin pero es claro que necesitamos mucha mas informacion y conocimiento sobre las condiciones de SQ, si no queremos hacer acciones inutiles o incluso contraproducentes para la organizacion local de SQ. (D) La comunicacion es un asunto crucial a resolver, por ejemplo, a traves de una linea telefonica con SQ, fax, correo electronico, y quizas otras formas de comunicacion como correo a traves de contactos o radio trasmision.
(E) Un problema abierto es como vincular la campan~a de SQ con la lucha vs. la globalizacion. En particular necesitamos decidir como vincular la campan~a SQ con las acciones para abril 2001 vs. FTAA. La reunion resolvio:
1. Crear un subcomite que va a recopilar informacion acerca de San Quintin y preparar un Taller de Saberes Locales sobre SQ.
2. Invitar al Comite de Baja California a crear un subcomite SQ. Es claro que el Taller de Saberes Locales no podra organizarse sin la contribucion del comite de Baja California.
3. Algunos puntos sugeridos para el Taller: Radiografia de las 10 agroindustrias mas importantes de SQ y Maniadero y de su red de produccion y distribucion, desde SQ hasta los mercados en EUA; Como demandar a las companhias por el uso inconstitucional del llamado "salario integrado"; Formas de trabajo, organizacion y resistencia de los jornaleros. Se propone invitar a algunos compas de SQ y Maniadero a dirigir el taller.
4. Propuesta de fecha para el taller SQ: Sabado 27 de enero, 10:00 am, en Tijuana.
5. Se propone que un grupo pequenho de personas vaya a SQ para invitar a los compas y para explorar las mejores vias de instalar comunicacion con SQ.
6. Se va a necesitar una campanha de solidaridad en cobijas, despensas, y dinero para SQ. Se esta formando un subcomite de solidaridad para SQ y Leymex.

2. ACCIONES vs. FTAA, QUEBEC 2001
El punto fue discutido por las dos reuniones, Baja California y San Diego. Se informo de algunas propuestas que se estan discutiendo, sobre todo en los Estados Unidos:
(A) Campan~a de repudio al FTAA que tenga como
eje la frontera San Ysidro/Tijuana que incluya talleres de estudio y una movilizacion en la frontera.
(B) Consulta internacional que tenga como punto central la opinion ciudadana acerca de la globalizacion. Esta consulta se realizaria siguiendo la experiencia de consulta zapatista de marzo de 1998.
(C) Campan~a de movilizaciones en los distintos puntos fronterizos de Estados Unidos con Mexico (Tijuana/SD, Cd. Juarez/El paso, Nuevo Laredo/Laredo, etc.) La reunion de Tijuana considero que la Red necesita tener mas informacion para que los Globalifobic@s tomen una posicion. La reunion decidio invitar a grupos de Mexicali, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Tucson, etc, ademas de grupos en Tijuana, Ensenada, Tecate y San Diego para discutir el que hacer el 21 y 22 de abril. Se propone que la reunion sea el 26 de enero, 5 pm, en Tijuana. La reunion de San Diego tomo una resolucion similar: considera que los miembros de San Diego de la Red podrian llamar a una reunion para explorar la formacion de una coalicion regional binacional ante las acciones por FTAA, Abril 2001. El Comite San Diego invita al Comite de Baja California a asistir a esta reunion. Se propone como fecha el sabado 13 de enero, 3 pm, en San Diego. Si el Comite de Baja California acepta esta propuesta, la reunion del 13 podria reemplazar a la propuesta de la reunion de Tijuana del 26 de enero, o podria servir para que la coalicion se formara el dia 26.

3. LEYMEX
El movimiento de los obreros de Leymex sigue adelante. La situacion es dificil porque los compas en lucha que demandan a la compan~ia no pueden encontrar trabajo en otras empresas: los patrones de Leymex han boletinado sus nombres a todos los empresarios de Tijuana. A la solidaridad entre patrones debemos oponer la solidaridad entre trabajadores. El viernes 15 se realizo la posada por Leymex. Fue bastante divertida. En mes y medio de campan~a, los comites globalifobicos de Tijuana y San Diego han recopilado mas de 2,000 dolares en ayuda monetaria y material a los compas.
Los compan~eros de Leymex tendran una audiencia trabajadores/empresa en la Junta de Conciliacion y Arbitraje el 11 de enero. Debemos estar pendientes para apoyar a los trabajadores en este momento de su combate.

4. ORGANIZACION DE LA RED
Este punto no fue discutido por el Comite San Diego (por falta de tiempo) y fue discutido brevemente por el Comite Baja California. En la reunion de Tijuana se informo que la Red cuenta con algunos fondos para apoyar a un compan~ero/a que sea facilitador/a de la Red. Los fondos disponibles alcanzan para contratar a un facilitador por dos meses. Se propuso que se contrate a un facilitador y se propone que el facilitador tenga su oficina en Baja California.
[Reporte elaborado por el Comite por Solidaridad en las Americas]

****(English)*****

Hi companeras y companeros:
We are inviting you to the next meetings of the Globalphobics Network. Also we are sending you information about our last meetings.
Saludos,
Enrique Davalos
EnglishMeetings of the Globalphobics Network.

I. JANUARY 12, 5 pm. BAJA CALIFORNIA COMMITTEE

Where: Factor X office. 14364-1 Junipero Serra st.

Directions: In Tijuana, take Blv. Agua Caliente to the corner known as "5 y 10." Turn right and go five block to Junipero Serra. (There is an Oxxo store on the corner.) Factor X office is right behind Oxxo. Information, Reyna Montera, phone number 011-52(66) 22-4217, e-mail: factorx@mail.tij.cetys.mx.

Agenda (proposal)

1. Solidarity with San Quintin Indigenas farmworkers
2. Delegacion del EZLN a la Cd. De Mexico
3. Solidarity with Leymex workers
4. Hiring a Network's logistic coordinator
5. FTAA--April 2001
6. General issues and information

II. JANUARY 13, 2 pm. FTAA CAMPAIGN MEETING CALLED BY Globalphobics' San Diego Commitee
Where: San Diego City College (To be confirmed.)

Agenda (proposal)
1. FTAA--April 2001
2. General issues and information
3. (After the open meeting) Hiring a Networks' logistic coordinator

III. JANUARY 26, 5pm. MEETING CALLED BY GLOBALPHOBICS' BAJA CALIFORNIA COMMITTEE
Where: To be decided (Tijuana)

Agenda (proposal)

1. FTAA--April 2001
2. General issues and information

IV. JANUARY 27, 10 am. (Date proposal) TEACH-ING ABOUT SAN QUINTIN
Jointed meeting of both San Diego and Baja California committees
Where: To be decided (Tijuana)
Agenda (proposal)
1. Teach-in about San Quintin
2. General issues and information


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REPORT OF LAST MEETINGS OF THE GLOBALPHOBICS NETWORK
Meetings:
A] Baja California, Tijuana, Dec. 15, Factor X office
B] San Diego, Dec. 16, San Diego City College

Agenda:
1. Report of the delegation to San Quintin (SQ)
2. FTAA campaign, April 21/22, 2001
3. Leymex workers
4. Network Organization

1. REPORT OF THE DELEGATION TO SAN QUINTIN

The Baja California Committee could not discuss this issue, but it will be the first point in the next meeting on Jan. 12, 5 pm, at Factor X office. The San Diego Committee did discuss the issue. People from the delegation explained their experience and opinions about the delegation to SQ. There were a lot of questions and many questions difficult to answer. There are serious issues to be considered, including the following ones:
(A) The delegation made some contacts with SQ groups of indigenous farmworkers. This is very positive; however, the Globalphobic Network should make contact with more of the progressive organizations in SQ. At this point, we know that there are at least 15 groups in SQ.
(B) The solidarity with SQ could not be limited to a campaign that would end in April, even though this was the commitment of the Festival. If we begin to organize solidarity actions, we have to be aware that we are taking on a commitment that will require work and effort for a long time, perhaps years. (C) The Festival decided to organize a campaign supporting SQ struggles; however, it is clear that we need more information and knowledge about SQ in order to have a successful campaign.
(D) Communication is a key problem to be solved. We need a phone line, e-mail access, fax, and/or other ways of efficient communication with groups in SQ.
(E) We need to decide how to weave in a wise way the campaign for San Quintin with the struggle against FTAA.
The meeting accorded the following points:
1. The creation of a sub-committee to get information and prepare a teach-in about SQ.
2. To invite the Baja California Committee to create a similar subcommittee that could focus on SQ. It is clear that a teach-in won't be possible without the push of the Baja California Committee.
3. There are some suggestions for the teach-in: To explore the ten biggest agribusiness in SQ. and Maniadero, including their network from production to distribution, from SQ. to the US supermarkets; to explore how to prepare a legal demand against the unconstitutional "salario integrado" that SQ. businesses pay to farmworkers; to explore experiences of SQ. Indigenous organization and mobilization. Organizers from SQ. should be invited to lead the teach-in.
4. Proposal for the teach-in: Jan. 27, Saturday, 10:00, at Tijuana
5. A small delegation should go to SQ. to invite people for the teach-in and explore ways of communication with SQ. groups.
6. We need a campaign of solidarity to get food, blankets, and money to SQ. San Diego Committee is creating a subcommittee in solidarity with Leymex and SQ.

2. FTAA, QUEBEC 2001
This issue was discussed in both meetings in Tijuana and San Diego. In both meetings, information was given about several proposals that are currently being discussed, especially in the US, regarding April FTAA meeting:
(A) A campaign against the FTAA focussing on the San Ysidro/Tijuana border gate, including actions of education (as workshops and teach-ins) and mobilizations on the border line.
(B) An international consultation asking people about their feelings on the current process of globalization and the FTAA. This consultation would follow the Zapatista experience of national consultation that was organized on March 1998.
(C) Campaign of several mobilizations on the US/Mexico border line including border crossing points at Tijuana/SD, Cd. Juarez/El Paso, Nuevo Laredo/Laredo, etc. The meeting in Tijuana considered that we need more information before the Globalphobics decide on a plan for April 2001. It was decided to organize a future meeting, in which people and groups from several cities, including Mexicali, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Tucson, will be invited. The meeting was proposed for Jan. 26, Friday, 5 pm, in Tijuana. The meeting in San Diego made a similar resolution. They considered that the San Diego members of the Globalphobic Network could call a meeting to investigate forming a regional and binational coalition for April 2001 FTAA actions. The San Diego committee invites the Tijuana Committee to attend this meeting as well. The date proposed was: Jan. 13, Saturday, 3 pm., in San Diego. If the Tijuana committee agrees, this meeting could take the place of the Jan. 26 meeting that they proposed, or, alternatively, could be used to further prepare for the formation of the coaltion on Jan 26.

3. LEYMEX
Leymex workers' struggle is going on well; however the situation is difficult because the workers could not get a new job in another maquiladora: Leymex's boss sent information to Tijuana maquiladoras' administrators with the names of Leymex workers. To face bosses' solidarity we should create workers' solidarity. The posada on Dec. 15 was successful. At this moment, the San Diego/Tijuana Globalphobics committees have obtained more than $2,000 dollars (cash and goods) in solidarity to Leymex's workers. Leymex workers have a meeting with the corporation and the Mexican Labor Department on Jan. 11. We should be alert to support the workers on that day.

4. NETWORK ORGANIZATION
This point was briefly discussed on Tijuana meeting but was not discussed on San Diego meeting due to the late hour. During the Tijuana committee meeting the group considered the hiring of a logistics coordinator. There is an amount of money to hire somebody in Baja California for two months. It was proposed to hire a logistic coordinator. Meantime, we would looking for additional founds to open an office of the network. It was proposed that the office will be located in Baja California.
[Report prepared by: Committee for Solidarity in the Americas]

 

Jan 12-13 Tijuana-San Diego

Meetings Agenda
[this is the latest information about the agenda and location for Jan 12 Globoalphoic meeting at San Diego, and Jan 12 Globolaphoic meeting at Jan 13. Spanish edition first, follow by English Translation]

Spanish
Reunion Globalifobicos (Cambios de ultima hora)
Date: 1/8/01 10:17:31 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Endavalos
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PROXIMAS REUNIONES de la RED DE GLOBALIFOBIC@S
AJUSTES DE ULTIMA HORA


1. Reunion del Comite de Baja California
Cuando: Viernes 12 de enero, 7 pm.
OJO: La reunion se cambia de 5 a 7 pm
Donde: Local del FZLN, calle 10 # 8175, entre ave. Revolucion y ave.
Constitucion, casi esquina con ave. Revolucion, zona centro, a 10 minutos de la frontera Tijuana-San Ysidro. OJO: La reunion se cambia al local del FZLN del local de Factor X El 12 DE ENERO, el EZLN llama a una movilizacion nacional por el septimo aniversario de la gran movilizacion de la sociedad civil que en 1994 detuvo la guerra de exterminio contra las comunidades indigenas de Chiapas. En Tijuana, el FZLN, el Congreso Indígena Binacional "Zapata Vive" y otras organizaciones llaman a un mitin en el centro de la ciudad, Calle 2da. y Ave. Constitucion, 5:00 pm. La reunion de los globalifobicos sera al terminar el mitin. El local del FZLN esta a 10 cuadras del lugar de la manifestacion.
Propuesta de orden del dia:
1. Solidaridad con jornaleros de San Quintin
2. Delegacion del EZLN a la Cd. De Mexico
3. Solidaridad con trabajadores de Leymex
4. Organizacion de la Red
5. Tratado de Libre Comercio de las Americas, FTAA, Abril 2001
6. Informaciones y generales


2. Reunion convocada por el Comite San Diego
Cuando: Sabado 13 de enero 3 pm
Donde: San Diego City College Salon C-226, edificio C
English Center OJO: La reunion se cambia de las 2 pm a las 3 pm
Propuesta de orden del dia

1. Tratado de Libre Comercio de las Americas, FTAA, Abril 20
2. Informaciones y generales
3. (Despues de la reunion amplia): Organizacion de la Red de Globalifobic@s


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Globalphobics meetings (Last minute changes)
Date: 1/8/01 10:18:05 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Endavalos
UPCOMING MEETINGS of the GLOBALPHOBICS NETWORK
LAST MINUTE CHANGES

1. Baja California Committee meeting

WHEN: Jan. 12, Friday, 7 pm.
ATTENTION:
The meeting has been changed from 5 pm to 7 pm
WHERE: Frente Zapatista office 8175 10th st., Tijuana downtown

ATTENTION:
The place has been changed from Factor X to Frente Zapatista ofice Frente Zapatista office is on 10th street, between Revolucion ave. and Constitucion ave., almost on the corner of 10th st. & Revolucion ave. The place is 10 mins. from San Ysidro border gate.
JANUARY 12th-- the EZLN is calling to a national movilization marking the seven anniversary of the great 1994 Jan. 12th demonstration that stoped the war of extemination of President Salinas against the Indian communities of Chiapas. In Tijuana, the Frente Zapatista, the Congreso Indígena Binacional "Zapata Vive" and other groups are calling to demonstrate in Tijuana downtown, Calle 2da. y Constitucion avenue, 5:00 pm, 15 minutes walking from San Ysidro border. The meeting of the Globalphobics will begin after the demonstration. Frente Zapatista' office is about ten block from the place of the demonstration.

Agenda (proposal)

1. Solidarity with San Quintin Indigenas farmworkers
2. Delegacion del EZLN a la Cd. De Mexico
3. Solidarity with Leymex workers
4. Organization of the Globalphobics network
5. FTAA--April 2001
6. General issues and information

2. Stop FTAA campaign--Meeting called by
Globalphobics, San Diego Committee
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WHEN: Jan. 13, Saturday, 3 pm.
ATTENTION: The meeting will begin at 3 pm instead of 2 pm
WHERE: San Diego City College Room C-226, Bld. C English Center
ATTENTION: The meeting will be in building C instead of bld. A
Agenda (proposal)
1. FTAA--April 2001
2. General issues and information
3. (After the general meeting):
Organization of the Globalphobics Network

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San Francisco

Dec 19: San Francisco Meeting Notes

Dec 19th 6:30 PM, San Francisco, SF FTAA-planning meeting.
*Here's the border actions part of the meeting notes.

Facilitators: Antonia (IFG) & Tony

Notetaker: Elizabeth

I. INTRODUCTIONS

Mike, Public Citizen (Mike D.)
Juliette, Global Exchange
Ben, Turtle Island Telephone
Judith Elizabeth, Sacramento Activists for Democratic Trade
Mark, Political Ecology Group
Donovan, Peninsula Peace and Justice Center
Sal
Earl, Misc. affiliations
Kalija, U.C. Berkeley
Mike, ISO
Rafael, ISO
Kevin, ISO
Michael
Brooke, Misc. affiliations
Dan, Midnight Special Law Collective
Aaron, MAC, FNB, SEIU
Pascha, CHRIA
Siu Hin, LA-DAN
Jeff, CHRIA
Juan, USA/CUBA INFOMED
Rai, Reclaim the Streets
Marcus, Reclaim the Streets
Tristan, Reclaim the Streets
Herman, Reclaim the Streets
Roman, PGA
Tom Price, ILWU
Robert, ILWU
Scott
Barbara, SOA Watch
Greg, Misc. affiliations
Elaine, Just Act
Starhawk, Misc. affiliations
Suzanne, IFG
Shannon, IFG
Antonia, IFG
Tony

AGENDA:

I-Introductions (25 minutes)
II-Consensus overview (7 minutes)
III-Committee report backs (caravan, outreach, education, action/scenario)(20 minutes)
IV-Discussion of organizing (committees, future meetings)(30 minutes)
V-Break out into committees (30 minutes)
VI-Up Dates on Border Actions
VII-Announcements
III-Committee report backs:

(4) Action/Scenario
Mike D.: We discussed three things. First, we discussed issues re: sending a Bay Area contingent to Quebec City including logistics, cost, and transportation. Second, we discussed how to support the border action. Third, we discussed the action(s) in the Bay Area. In particular, we discussed the importance of ensuring that the action is Bay Area wide, e.g., including the Peninsula, the East Bay, etc., as opposed to only an event in downtown S.F. with puppets. In addition, we also want to make sure the event(s) target acupressure points- that is, the congressional delegation who will eventually decide yes or no on the FTAA and fast track, the condition precedent to the FTAA.
VI-Up Dates on Border Actions:
Siu Hin: He has been making trips to the border region and attended several border meetings, include Tijuana Globoalphoics and Tucson border summit. Believes that the good news is that there is support for border action groups to do actions along the border. The details need to be defined. Believes that there are also substantial challenges including low levels of trust and differences in approach to activism amount Mexican and US activists. The Northern activists have received feedback that their approaches can be domineering. There is a need to do a great deal of talking in order to build relationships and discuss how to do joint Mexico-Us border activities. Meeting is proposed coming up on January 27th in Tijuana
Rafael: This is one of the major things this group should be focusing on b/c the border is a lot closer than Quebec and b/c of the issues raised.
Juliette: Also attended the Global Phobics conference. There were a lot of concerns. Jan 29 San Francisco Border Committee Meeting
Minutes for 1/30/01 meeting of the Anti-FTaa Border
action Sub-Commitee....

by:carolynclara@hotmail.com (Carolyn Norr)
Note: NEXT MEETING: TUES, FEB 6, 5:30 pm Muddy Waters on 16th and Valencia
Anti- FTAA Coalition meeting to follow, feb., 6, 6:30 pm

1. Updates...
*San Diego Meeting: the californian globofobicos, the American Friends Service Committee, and the San diego anti-ftaa action group officially endorsed some sort of peaceful, non-violent border action and approved the term "protest". Logistics are still being worked out and sites, such as the Border State Park, need to be scouted. More discussion is needed with the south of the border group. Any plan must be sensitive to the longer term effects on the border region, and must arise from ideas on both sides of the border.
Next Meeting: is this Saturday, with meetings being held every two weeks

*LA Teach-In: on February 24th, there will be an all-day teach in at Cal State LA, and anyone interested is invited to attend, or be a speaker. The SanFrancisco group has decided to try to send some folks down.... INS-Watch meeting that same weekend.

*SF Anti-Ftaa Coalition Meeting : took place last tues, 1/23, and was attended by about 50 people. The meeting included a teach in on FTAA issues, and reports from various working committees.
Two more teach-ins are scheduled for the end of February and mid march, so stay tuned..
Next Meeting: will be Tuesday, feb. 6th, at 6:30 pm, at a still undisclosed
location that will be anounced over email.

*Coalition to D.F. Will be arriving in Mexico City some time around March 8, after traveling from Chiapas.

2.STRUCTURE AND PURPOSE
Questions we raised:
1. how do we make decisions? What decisions do we need to make?
2. What is our relation to other anti-ftaa groups?
3. How do we communicate with those groups?
4. What is our level of commitment? What is our time frame?
5.Who are we accountable to?
6. What role does this group take in a)shaping this action and b) supporting other groups?
6 1/2. What actions do we as a group want to take?
7. Do we want to send people to the border for planning, coordiation etc?
8. How can we best communicate with south of the border or southern CA groups from here?
9. How do we avoid the carpet-bagger syndrome?
10. How can we incorporate unions?
11. How can we develop commonalities with Tuscon, El Paso, Seattle, and Quebec protests?
Internal Structure:
> > >**It was decided by concensus:
**We are a subcommittee of the anti-ftaa coalition working to build attention and support for a border action on 4/21. We will re-evaluate this position in 2 weeks.
Pros: resources of a larger group v. Cons: possible limits on autonomy >
>**Decision making: we be by concensus.


Report Back from San Quintin
Teach-in (Feb 10 - 11)
Background information about San Quintin

Feb 10-11 San Quintin Teach-in Report and Notes
By: Paul Marini (San Francisco Border Committee, pegro373@yahoo.com)

Here are some rough notes I took during the teach-in this weekend.

2/10/01 Ensenada
2 investigators from San Quinin (SQ) could not be present. We broke into discussion groups & here are the report-backs:
(note, this was translated into english for me as I took hurried notes, so it's a little sketchy at times)
LIVING CONDITIONS:
-1950's saw an agricultural boom in Northern Mexico - labor contractors would go to Oaxaca and bring indigenous people to the north of Mexico to work
-workers would work during the season and then go back to Oaxaca
-migration to SQ began in 1970's
-when the Spaniards first came to Oaxaca, they forced the native people (mixteca, zapoteca, tricis (spelling almost definitely wrong)) to the worst places with the worst soil, etc.
-the migrants live in camps set up by the companies
-these camps have 6, 7 people to a 12' X 12' room.
-the camps have no electricity, water etc.
-some of the more established communities make their own neighborhoods where they are better off
-there is very little medical care or education

PRODUCTION

-2 types of companies: rich transnational Mexican companies, and companies associated with American capital with the Mexicans providing everything else (like land, labor, etc)
-these companies require lots of young peple to work because the young can work long hours
-companies send people to Oaxaca to recruit migrant workers with lies about how they will be taken care of and paid lots of money
-workers are exploited - more and more often, the companies don't pay on time.
-SQ is strategic for production because it has good growing climate and is close to the American market
-they use water from wells that will dry up after about 30 o r 40 years (that is from 1970, which means Now)
-Now there is less migration to SQ and more from SQ to California
-they are reaching the ecological limit of water
- companies are moving to higher technology which takes a more skilled workforce
- sometimes they have to work in special suits to not get contaminated by GMOs and pesticides

DISTRIBUTIUON:
(mostly questions like what is chain of distribution? What is profit for the crop? Etc.)
-these products raise competition in the market
-they export to Asia as well as US
Campaigns/strategies (Brainstorm)
-pressure companies on US side has to be pressure on the product side to raise conciousness of American consumer
-United Food and Commercial Workers are a powerful union to organize in this campaign since they have most of the chain grocery stores organized.
-Also, food going to Asia probably passes through LA (and so through the hands of the Longshoremen)
-Since this is about indigenous people, we should bring the issue beofre the International Indan Treaty Council in San Francisco. They work internationally and are bringing issues before Geneva

ORGANIZING EFFORTS (reportback)
-there is a list (which I don't have) of 15 groups organizing in and for SQ
-there have been efforts to create an international group of Oaxacans - also formation of unions and ethics groups for the rights of migrant workers.
-the Indigenous people of Baja are in a dire position now due to moving and reduced numbers.
-they face internal problems -e.g. strife over land, organizing style, etc.
- Question: what representation do individuals have in these groups? What kind of community organizing is being done?
-confrontation with companies is a dificult struggle.
-Organizers have changed strategies and focused on gov't (not companies) for social justice (e.g. health, education)

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Tucson

Jan 21 Tucson Border Meeting

Report On Delegation To Tucscon
Date: 1/26/01 4:18:19 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: lacispes@igc.org (LA CISPES)

Two Los Angeles activists, Siu Hin Lee and Don White, both of whom work in the anti-corporate globalization movement, visited Tucson, Arizona on Sunday, January 21, 2001 for a meeting with various human rights, immigrants' rights and "border issues" activists from the Tucson area.
Siu Hin and Don are presently involved in a group in Los Angeles which is exploring the possibilities of a MEXICO-U.S. BORDER EVENT in the San Diego-San Ysidro area in April to coincide with the actions in Quebec, Canada around the FTAA meetings there. The initiative also has groups in San Diego, Tijuana, San Francisco and other cities discussing the project and many individuals and organizations have expressed support for such a border event in April.
The following is a brief report on the delegation's visit to Tucson:
The group of activists in Tucson, Arizona with whom we met were extremely cordial, hospitable and serious and both of us felt that the exchange of ideas, strategies and concerns was positive and helpful. Fifteen of us met for about two hours and all participants were frank and open and very respectful of any and all ideas and perspectives put forth.
The meeting opened with introductions and brief explanations of the groups represented. Siu Hin and Don were invited to make short presentations regarding the motivation/purposes for the visit, the goals we had and also to lay out what the "current status" of organizing is around the border action(s) in Los Angeles and elsewhere.
We stressed that we were coming to listen to the views and opinions of activists in Tucson and we were very interested in the ideas which were being discussed at this time along the Arizona-Mexico border. (The Tucson community relates to the State of Sonora and the city of Nogales for the most part.)
We tried to accurately report on the status of the organizing, the meetings in Tijuana and San Diego with groups there, our relations to a working group in San Francisco and our outreach to groups in the Los Angeles area.
During the meeting these were the main points and concerns raised by Tucson activists:
* They feel strongly that they want to organize in their own community for any actions around the FTAA and/or the border issues which they are deeply involved in. There is a crisis on the Arizona-Mexico border so their border issues are critical and have a day-to-day, life-and-death importance to them. There was no sentiment that they would go to Tijuana in April unless it was a small solidarity delegation (4 or 5 people?) or possibly one or two as speakers.
* There is concern that any large FTAA solidarity action could "dilute" the border issues (militarization, repression, violence against immigrants, etc.) which most of the activists feel are the issues they must address and speak out strongly about. There seemed to be three "positions" on actions in April, but it is important to emphasize that these are NOT hardline, "in cement" positions but rather were thoughtful and reasoned positions which many folks are still developing and discussing:
(a) one big demonstration which links the FTAA, NAFTA, WTO issues with the "border issues," strongly projecting that the escalation of misery and fear on the border is the result of the international trade policies, (b) two demonstrations, one clearly in solidarity with the Quebec actions and held in Tucson and the other focused on the "border issues" and probably held at Nogales, (c) possibly demonstrations held on the same day, one directed against a pro-globalization target in Tucson and then moving to Nogales for a "border issues" event within an hour or two of the first action.
* Concerns were expressed about the potential for problems at the border because of the same pattern in Arizona as elsewhere following the Seattle/WTO events: escalation of police and military confrontations and militancy. Like we have seen in other places there is a more "hard line" being projected along the Arizona-Mexico border.
* Everyone told us they were in solidarity with what we are doing and want to help in any way. "Diluting" their serious border issues was their main concern although there was a high level of understanding and analysis of how the trade agreements and the border issues were directly, profoundly linked. They said they are "taking it slowly" in the process to decide what they will be doing. They have planned a discussion meeting February 4 in Tucson to discuss this further and incorporate more activists into the decision-making process.
Tucson is an inspiring place. Many will recall that the Sanctuary Movement of the 1980's, which aided many Central Americans fleeing death squads, was founded in Tucson and the border work there is legendary. It was a great pleasure to meet with and discuss issues with these terrific folks.

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